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(8:05:27 PM) StevenMurawski: MindofRoot are you on skype yet?
(8:05:39 PM) MindOfRoot-1: Not yet. Coming on now.
(8:05:55 PM) StevenMurawski: cool.. I just updated to Skype V4
(8:06:03 PM) StevenMurawski: and wasn't sure if I hosed something up
(8:06:20 PM) MindOfRoot-1: I'll call you in a sec.
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(8:25:35 PM) jeffculb: evening all
(8:25:46 PM) StevenMurawski: hey jeff
(8:26:07 PM) StevenMurawski: You're doing the Sapien Special Forces training right?
(8:26:26 PM) jeffculb: yup, excellent course
(8:26:29 PM) StevenMurawski: How's that going?
(8:26:42 PM) jeffculb: today was last day.. my head hurts LOL
(8:26:58 PM) jeffculb: Hicks good instructor.. was a fun class
(8:27:03 PM) StevenMurawski: awesome
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(8:27:25 PM) jeffculb: definitely worth my time
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(8:28:20 PM) StevenMurawski: If I had the time and money, I'd like to take the class just for the experience.
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(8:29:12 PM) jeffculb: I was glad I had a few months of Powershell under my belt before I did it
(8:29:37 PM) jeffculb: definitely picked up a lot of pointers in where I could do things more effieciently
(8:29:51 PM) jeffculb: but I am not a coder, just a hacker,.. heheeh
(8:29:51 PM) StevenMurawski: nice
(8:29:56 PM) StevenMurawski: :)
(8:33:10 PM) jeffculb: now that class is over, I can put my laptop back to win7 hehehe
(8:33:43 PM) StevenMurawski: V1 only for the class?
(8:33:57 PM) jeffculb: was recommended
(8:34:26 PM) jeffculb: less why is that not working to deal with
(8:34:36 PM) StevenMurawski: We'll be starting in a minute or so
(8:34:42 PM) jeffculb: kk
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(8:41:22 PM) WinstonWolf: howdy yall
(8:41:27 PM) StevenMurawski: hey
(8:41:53 PM) WinstonWolf: BTW - Keith, I have the answer to your Exchange 2007 SMTP connector
(8:42:05 PM) MindOfRoot-1: Cool
(8:42:05 PM) jeffculb: evening Winston
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(8:43:39 PM) WinstonWolf: The reason that adding _ANY_ new or extra server to an existing Exchange Org assumes that the original server is the Bridgehead server and the only server with internet access. Thus the SMTP connector is created and all SMTP traffic is routed though it
(8:44:24 PM) WinstonWolf: It assumes that your new Exchange server is not able to access the net via SMTP
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(8:44:57 PM) MindOfRoot-1: Ah. Bad assumption since I planned to retire the box.
(8:46:13 PM) WinstonWolf: but MS doesn't know that and their assumption for exchange is that it is always deployed in a large enterprise environment so it makes large enterprise assumptions, SMB and MSB have to adjust their exchange deployments accordingly
(8:46:29 PM) WinstonWolf: did you make sure to make your Public Folder MASTER replica on your new server too?
(8:46:49 PM) WinstonWolf: Man Symantec SUCKS
(8:46:59 PM) WinstonWolf: Use ESVA to filter your SPAM
(8:47:32 PM) WinstonWolf: http://www.global-domination.org/ESVA.php
(8:47:46 PM) WinstonWolf: ESVA ROCKS
(8:48:34 PM) WinstonWolf: Okay Keith froze up
(8:48:41 PM) WinstonWolf: and there he goes again
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(8:49:29 PM) WinstonWolf: ESVA runs as a VM
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(8:49:49 PM) MindOfRoot-1: Nice. Linux based I'm assuming.
(8:50:24 PM) WinstonWolf: Yea, based on CentOS
(8:50:33 PM) WinstonWolf: but since it is a VM you can load it up
(8:50:38 PM) WinstonWolf: and Web Driven
(8:50:51 PM) WinstonWolf: the initial setup is a script on the console of the VM
(8:51:04 PM) WinstonWolf: but the rest of it is WebUI
(8:51:51 PM) MindOfRoot-1: Sounds a little like the ProxMox package I'm using. All free or pay for some features.
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(8:51:58 PM) WinstonWolf: Why lease a vehicle to train if you can't have the same setup when the poop hits the fan?
(8:52:11 PM) WinstonWolf: ESVA is 100% free
(8:52:20 PM) MindOfRoot-1: Awesome.
(8:52:41 PM) WinstonWolf: hell you need 3 of them....
(8:52:57 PM) WinstonWolf: have you guys ever seen the EuroCar?
(8:54:01 PM) WinstonWolf: I used to have something like that in the Army, it was called a Zulu 2 Van
(8:54:11 PM) WinstonWolf: had 3 dedicated Ac units that had to run all the time
(8:54:19 PM) WinstonWolf: even during the winter
(8:54:26 PM) StevenMurawski: I can only imagine the heat generated
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(8:59:23 PM) WinstonWolf: Not many of us here....
(8:59:24 PM) WinstonWolf: LOL
(8:59:35 PM) StevenMurawski: better chance then..
(8:59:37 PM) StevenMurawski: :)
(9:00:33 PM) WinstonWolf: Ooooohhh - One MORE Thing about Exch2007
(9:01:02 PM) WinstonWolf: it has a Self Signed Cert for Inter Site communications. The cert self expires after 1 year
(9:01:24 PM) WinstonWolf: you have to re-gen the cert in PS every year or your users get errors in Outlook
(9:01:51 PM) WinstonWolf: or you can get a commercial cert that goes longer than 1 year
(9:01:51 PM) MindOfRoot-1: Good to know. I did not know that. Thanks.
(9:02:07 PM) MindOfRoot-1: $$$$
(9:02:36 PM) WinstonWolf: Make a note of the day you rolled out Exch2007, that same day in 1 year you are going to have a storm from users getting errors
(9:02:56 PM) WinstonWolf: Always add RAM
(9:03:00 PM) WinstonWolf: PF is SLOW
(9:03:36 PM) WinstonWolf: PAE
(9:03:41 PM) WinstonWolf: PAE on 32 bit
(9:03:52 PM) WinstonWolf: then again ... 64Bit is _the_ way
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(9:04:08 PM) WinstonWolf: 32bit anything....64 bit is the ONLY way to go
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(9:04:26 PM) WinstonWolf: ditch 32 bit like a VD
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(9:05:04 PM) WinstonWolf: what? separate instances for each DB?
(9:05:15 PM) WinstonWolf: man, talk about glutton for punnishment
(9:05:34 PM) StevenMurawski: yep.. there are some valid reasons to do it though
(9:06:16 PM) WinstonWolf: yea, but you see too many software packages that do not let you add a DB to an existing instance. they demand their own instance without any reall good reason for it
(9:08:09 PM) WinstonWolf: interesting take on the issue
(9:08:20 PM) WinstonWolf: never thought about it that way
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(9:10:08 PM) WinstonWolf: no but killing a single instance is nice
(9:10:19 PM) WinstonWolf: you get to gracefully shut the other ones down
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(9:10:40 PM) WinstonWolf: I find Steve's point very interesting
(9:11:04 PM) WinstonWolf: because I am in general in favor of less instances...like a single one
(9:11:39 PM) WinstonWolf: Damn
(9:11:56 PM) WinstonWolf: You know that there is a tool to migrate Access DBs to SQL right?
(9:12:23 PM) StevenMurawski: He's pulling your leg..
(9:12:54 PM) Brad_C: big blue?
(9:13:04 PM) WinstonWolf: well I think that is going to roll over till next week
(9:13:13 PM) jeffculb: Peanut
(9:13:23 PM) Brad_C: was it Big blue
(9:13:33 PM) MindOfRoot-1: Jeff - You are the winner!
(9:13:56 PM) niemeierrichard: now a days we call it an anchor
(9:13:58 PM) WinstonWolf: Chicklet
(9:14:20 PM) jeffculb: ty Keith
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(9:15:41 PM) WinstonWolf: W7 is nice
(9:15:52 PM) WinstonWolf: I keep the Beta stuff to myself to keep the users from being mangled
(9:16:53 PM) WinstonWolf: Need a copy?
(9:17:02 PM) Brad_C: lol i have 6 product keys for 7
(9:17:10 PM) Brad_C: 3 32 and 3 64bit
(9:17:23 PM) WinstonWolf: I'll burn it and send it your way
(9:17:39 PM) Brad_C: lol that 's what I did
(9:18:01 PM) Brad_C: good to know
(9:18:13 PM) Brad_C: I can email you a key if you want rich
(9:18:29 PM) reelmccoy: Heh... Those freebies do get sent a bit on the late side
(9:18:58 PM) WinstonWolf: I have users test the final software before full deployment
(9:19:06 PM) WinstonWolf: I setup VMs to have the users test
(9:19:27 PM) Brad_C: we have 40 sites so we some times use a whole site to test on
(9:19:38 PM) Brad_C: after lab testing ofcourse
(9:19:52 PM) jeffculb: I keep the beta limited to the team.. end users get it at RTM deployment
(9:19:53 PM) WinstonWolf: VMWare Lab Manager - Great stuff for testing software
(9:20:36 PM) WinstonWolf: Users are PITA in the first place. Give them beta and they become Huge PITA
(9:21:08 PM) Brad_C: PITA?
(9:21:22 PM) WinstonWolf: LOL
(9:21:22 PM) WinstonWolf: Google Apps
(9:21:32 PM) WinstonWolf: PITA = Pain In The A$$
(9:21:43 PM) Brad_C: lol nice
(9:22:02 PM) StevenMurawski: Or the tasty outer bread surrounding a gyro
(9:22:10 PM) Brad_C: I like fixing issues that are PICNIC's Problem In Chair Not In Computer
(9:22:26 PM) WinstonWolf: they do make us a lot more $ though...
(9:22:49 PM) WinstonWolf: LOL
(9:23:16 PM) WinstonWolf: Don't you love it when you walk up and everything works just fine, but only because you are there?
(9:23:56 PM) Brad_C: then the users break it
(9:24:00 PM) StevenMurawski: Happens more times than I can count
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(9:24:20 PM) Brad_C: winki hehehe
(9:25:04 PM) WinstonWolf: I love to use VNC to remote into user's systems and move things on the...I count the seconds between I start to do stuff and the time the phone rings from them
(9:25:07 PM) WinstonWolf: freaking out
(9:25:18 PM) StevenMurawski: :)
(9:25:36 PM) niemeierrichard: lol
(9:25:36 PM) reelmccoy: Sweet!
(9:25:44 PM) Brad_C: Dameware is way better then VNC and fairly cheep
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(9:25:56 PM) MindOfRoot-1: I love Dameware.
(9:25:57 PM) WinstonWolf: VNC is very cheap....free
(9:26:12 PM) Brad_C: Dameware is worththe money
(9:26:25 PM) WinstonWolf: and DameWare uses VNC as part of its core
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(9:26:30 PM) Brad_C: I use it atleak 2 -3 times a day
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(9:27:03 PM) WinstonWolf: Website for next week -- http://www.teamviewer.com/
(9:27:20 PM) Brad_C: i've use team vier before
(9:27:29 PM) WinstonWolf: I use FastPush to install VNC remotely
(9:27:38 PM) Brad_C: we have student usin it to bypass our web filtering
(9:27:48 PM) WinstonWolf: PSExec
(9:27:59 PM) WinstonWolf: microsoft.com/sysinternals/
(9:28:41 PM) WinstonWolf: yup
(9:28:46 PM) WinstonWolf: and it was SO nice...
(9:29:03 PM) WinstonWolf: I think I shed a tear the day I heard that MS bought them out....
(9:29:48 PM) WinstonWolf: I downloaded all the apps and all the Source Code they had at the time
(9:30:07 PM) WinstonWolf: and look for the source code now....MS said that it would be available, it isn;t
(9:30:27 PM) WinstonWolf: I use them almost every day
(9:31:08 PM) WinstonWolf: So have any of you guys ever used http://www.teamviewer.com/
(9:31:13 PM) WinstonWolf: it is preaty neat
(9:31:18 PM) WinstonWolf: LOL
(9:31:41 PM) WinstonWolf: does the NERV clear the height of the drive-though?
(9:31:53 PM) WinstonWolf: Team Viewer is nice....
(9:31:58 PM) Brad_C: its doesnt require a install either
(9:32:20 PM) WinstonWolf: it is like GoToMyAssist but free
(9:32:28 PM) Brad_C: we have sutents using it to bypass our firewall :(
(9:32:34 PM) WinstonWolf: you can install it if you want, but you dont have to
(9:32:36 PM) WinstonWolf: ShowMyPC
(9:32:39 PM) WinstonWolf: SSH VNC
(9:32:59 PM) WinstonWolf: Team Viewer = German Company, that is the reason you have the accent
(9:34:29 PM) jeffculb: email on its way steve
(9:34:32 PM) Brad_C: have you ever used archive.org to find old apps?
(9:34:43 PM) StevenMurawski: jeffculb thanks.. got it
(9:34:47 PM) reelmccoy: Thanks and take it easy
(9:34:48 PM) jeffculb: thanks guys
(9:34:56 PM) WinstonWolf: never used the Internet Archive for that....I don't think they cache EXE or ZIP files...
(9:35:03 PM) niemeierrichard: thanks evryone
(9:35:06 PM) WinstonWolf: night all
(9:35:16 PM) jeffculb: night all
(9:35:18 PM) Brad_C: yep i just check they do have some
(9:35:19 PM) WinstonWolf: you edit?
(9:35:21 PM) WinstonWolf: really?
(9:35:25 PM) WinstonWolf: is that new?
(9:35:43 PM) Brad_C: http://web.archive.org/web/20030525152005/www.sysinternals.com/
(9:35:49 PM) WinstonWolf: netware....ahhh the painful memmories
(9:36:06 PM) WinstonWolf: yes....
(9:36:12 PM) jeffculb: hehehe
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(9:36:23 PM) reelmccoy: right back at ya
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(9:36:35 PM) WinstonWolf: The death of netware came way too late....
(9:36:38 PM) WinstonWolf: they beat MS to the whole Directory thing...but man it sucks
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(9:36:52 PM) WinstonWolf: Groupwise....what wonderful headaches....
(9:37:00 PM) niemeierrichard: I still think NDS is better than AD
(9:37:07 PM) Brad_C: not all the exe are availible but some are cached
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(9:37:18 PM) WinstonWolf: made you want to put a screwdriver in your ear and scramble your brains out...
(9:37:38 PM) WinstonWolf: NDS WAS better than AD - before AD existed
(9:37:55 PM) WinstonWolf: once AD came to the scene it made NDS look like 1800 tech
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(9:38:43 PM) MindOfRoot-1: Night everyone.
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