(9:09:20 PM) The topic for #mind-of-root is: mind-of-root
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(9:20:53 PM) MindOfRoot-1: Hello all. We'll be coming up in a few minutes.
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(9:29:24 PM) EBGreen: you saw me dancing and got embarassed for me right?
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(9:29:54 PM) WinstonWolf: it's all good - I am watching the F1 race on my DVR in the mean time
(9:30:00 PM) MindOfRoot-1: Yup. You nailed it. Where did you learn to move like that?
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(9:31:01 PM) WinstonWolf: there he is
(9:31:41 PM) WinstonWolf: is that a 4040 mic?
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(9:32:08 PM) WinstonWolf: MXL makes a black mic?
(9:32:24 PM) StevenMurawski: looks that way
(9:32:34 PM) WinstonWolf: MXL is all about musician's friend and guitar center
(9:33:02 PM) WinstonWolf: Sweetwater is down the street for me so that is where I get my audio gear
(9:33:33 PM) WinstonWolf: I won't be here long
(9:33:39 PM) WinstonWolf: wife is demanding my attention
(9:33:46 PM) glnsize: not diggin the new interface... personally
(9:33:54 PM) WinstonWolf: yup
(9:34:06 PM) mrTomahawk: i agree
(9:34:18 PM) WinstonWolf: nope - I am married and happy and I think that there is no single guy luckier than me
(9:34:36 PM) glnsize: american idol is babysitting my wife
(9:35:07 PM) mrTomahawk: your angle
(9:35:29 PM) WinstonWolf: You know - the reason I never noticed the MIC is that the box over for Steve is always covering it
(9:35:40 PM) EBGreen: don't sneeze
(9:36:01 PM) mrTomahawk: No I was finishing Steve's sentence: He's been spending the weekend working on his angle"
(9:36:51 PM) WinstonWolf: Put a sheet behind you as a courtain to cover the mess, hang it from the celing
(9:37:12 PM) WinstonWolf: no - Steve
(9:37:44 PM) WinstonWolf: I might be coming to Philly
(9:37:47 PM) EBGreen: Remember The Milk!
(9:38:35 PM) EBGreen: whatever works
(9:38:45 PM) glnsize: Before I forget... i was listening to your last eps last night... log in scripts to map drives!  It's 2009 baby get with the times, group policy preferences!
(9:39:04 PM) glnsize: yellow sticky notes are my file system
(9:39:17 PM) WinstonWolf: I use Logon and Logoff scripts inside Group Policy
(9:39:38 PM) EBGreen: we have the worst of both worlds...policy sets registry keys that the login script reads to map the drives. :)
(9:39:46 PM) glnsize: can he link a gpo?
(9:40:04 PM) WinstonWolf: man that BLOWS
(9:40:26 PM) WinstonWolf: time to setup a rouge domain
(9:40:55 PM) glnsize: ouch yeah that does suck... without access to the domain.
(9:41:00 PM) WinstonWolf: LOL
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(9:41:51 PM) WinstonWolf: I have to run off - but 2008 licensing needs a KMC Server
(9:41:51 PM) WinstonWolf: in the domain
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(9:42:16 PM) WinstonWolf: boss is calling
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(9:45:38 PM) EBGreen: game face music
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(9:46:59 PM) glnsize: too many codeplex projects
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(9:51:28 PM) glnsize: I'm diggin for my old ad-site aware login (vbscript shiver)... either way I would leverage sites and services to perform all location logic.
(9:52:26 PM) EBGreen: I maintain our login script and it is AD site aware. Who wants code?
(9:53:35 PM) MindOfRoot-1: Send it to Rich at Rich [at] mindofroot.com
(9:53:44 PM) EBGreen: can do
(9:55:52 PM) MoreAllLess: The answer is yes.  What is the question?
(9:56:34 PM) glnsize: as far as im concerned it's a san
(9:56:48 PM) glnsize: entery level but still a san
(9:56:54 PM) MindOfRoot-1: I agree.
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(9:59:01 PM) glnsize: I've run scary large databases over ISCSI.
(9:59:11 PM) glnsize: np
(9:59:13 PM) StevenMurawski: )
(9:59:20 PM) StevenMurawski: That was my thought
(9:59:27 PM) glnsize: you need extreame loads to 'require' FC
(10:01:53 PM) glnsize: sounds like a bios setting/OS not having your raid drivers
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(10:03:13 PM) rmwetmore: Hello
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(10:04:34 PM) MindOfRoot-1: Hello
(10:04:51 PM) glnsize: i actually miss the smb (no money) world...
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(10:05:01 PM) glnsize: Good for you steve!
(10:05:25 PM) glnsize: good to see hal spreading the poshcomm love
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(10:06:34 PM) glnsize: unfortunatly all my conf budget was cut this year.  So you'll be our reporter in the field!
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(10:06:57 PM) EBGreen: I thought they had officially said stand alone PS v2 was *after* W7
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(10:07:07 PM) StevenMurawski: Will do
(10:07:08 PM) EBGreen: off to google
(10:07:32 PM) StevenMurawski: ebgreen - could be
(10:08:16 PM) rmwetmore-1: No VPN.  Wooohoooo!
(10:08:45 PM) glnsize: i'm guessing it's yet more <censored> crammed on 443
(10:09:41 PM) MindOfRoot-1: 443 isn't overloaded....too much.
(10:09:43 PM) rmwetmore-1: It even allows you to do set group policy on remote machines
(10:10:00 PM) rmwetmore-1: i think
(10:12:13 PM) glnsize: the ipv6 to ipv4 bridges/gateway aren't that bad.
(10:12:50 PM) glnsize: if i understood ipv6 i'de look into it more
(10:14:07 PM) MoreAllLess: In due time . . .
(10:14:59 PM) MindOfRoot-1: You been working on IPv6 Justo?
(10:15:14 PM) glnsize: the xp vm baby
(10:15:22 PM) EBGreen: yup
(10:15:29 PM) EBGreen: all the buzz
(10:15:47 PM) glnsize: i can't believe it took them this long to get it
(10:15:48 PM) MoreAllLess: Just like you, don't have the motivation to do so.
(10:15:57 PM) MindOfRoot-1: Yup.
(10:16:02 PM) rmwetmore-1: You can even mount VHD's natively in W7
(10:16:02 PM) MoreAllLess: There isn't a need *right* now.
(10:16:47 PM) glnsize: you can still run all your legacy busticated apps
(10:16:55 PM) StevenMurawski: yep
(10:17:03 PM) MoreAllLess: 7 + XP = 17 + P (what's the roman numeral for P)
(10:17:07 PM) EBGreen: I just need it to virtualize back to W95 so I can stop using DosBox
(10:17:19 PM) MoreAllLess: Whoops, P is not a roman numeral.
(10:17:35 PM) glnsize: dude... you have some apps you just need to let go of
(10:17:45 PM) EBGreen: Panzer General
(10:17:53 PM) EBGreen: Great game
(10:18:10 PM) EBGreen: P
(10:18:50 PM) glnsize: they were trying to get everyone to update there applications
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(10:19:12 PM) glnsize: this was suppose to be a last resort. now it will be treated as a solution
(10:19:32 PM) glnsize: yes
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(10:22:26 PM) glnsize: no no you are
(10:22:31 PM) glnsize: it's okay
(10:23:04 PM) EBGreen: DosBox is the virtual equivalent of a Renfair
(10:23:12 PM) glnsize: same exact kernel
(10:23:54 PM) glnsize: the features will keep them isolated
(10:25:26 PM) rmwetmore-1: amen
(10:27:31 PM) glnsize: count me in... I'll harase you via the intertubes
(10:29:10 PM) glnsize: yep
(10:29:27 PM) glnsize: vSpear PowerCLI is the new VITK
(10:30:01 PM) glnsize: nooooooo
(10:30:09 PM) glnsize: YEEEESSSSS
(10:30:14 PM) EBGreen: and most importantly there is already an animal picked for the o'reilly books
(10:30:23 PM) MindOfRoot-1: What is it?
(10:30:33 PM) EBGreen: Trutle I would assume
(10:31:11 PM) EBGreen: it is the logo they use all over thevesi.org
(10:31:34 PM) MindOfRoot-1: Doesn't inspire hope for speedy performance.
(10:31:43 PM) glnsize: faster then a speeding turtle baby
(10:31:54 PM) EBGreen: very safe though. :)
(10:32:47 PM) EBGreen: great guide
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(10:33:36 PM) glnsize: ahhh just jump right into powershell in action
(10:33:37 PM) EBGreen: it is a pdf D/L
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(10:34:59 PM) glnsize: looking forward to serverfault... can't help programmers, but sysadmins are my kind of people
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(10:37:06 PM) EBGreen: it means slower dev. especially for scalability issues
(10:37:22 PM) glnsize: if they do anything to mysql it will garnish an anti-trust imo
(10:38:04 PM) glnsize: now i could see then morphing mysql into a onramp for 11G... the MSDE to SQL ramp
(10:38:16 PM) EBGreen: that would make sense
(10:38:42 PM) glnsize: bull
(10:38:44 PM) glnsize: there are three
(10:38:55 PM) glnsize: mysql sql and oracle
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(10:39:12 PM) WinstonWolf: back
(10:39:25 PM) WinstonWolf: Oracle SUCKS
(10:39:25 PM) MoreAllLess: Could it be that Oracle just bought it to scrap out mysql?
(10:39:36 PM) glnsize: truth be told... 
(10:39:46 PM) EBGreen: but judging that none of us had heard of it, how popular could it be?
(10:39:47 PM) glnsize: I think they bought them for the hardware
(10:39:58 PM) WinstonWolf: I would rather pull my nails out with a pair of rusty plyers than use Oracle on purpose
(10:39:59 PM) glnsize: now they can supply a true key solution
(10:40:00 PM) StevenMurawski: moreallless, I don't think so
(10:40:22 PM) glnsize: yep
(10:40:22 PM) StevenMurawski: I think mysql is just a victim of the purchase..
(10:40:24 PM) EBGreen: Sun servers with Oracle preinstalled and optimized
(10:40:28 PM) MoreAllLess: Look what happened to foxpro and microsoft.
(10:41:01 PM) MoreAllLess: Microsoft bought foxpro and shelved it.
(10:41:11 PM) WinstonWolf: There are forks of mysql and the last version of MySQl is still OSS so it can still be forked
(10:41:58 PM) MoreAllLess: That I agree.  The demand and use is still there.
(10:42:08 PM) glnsize: yeah, but a fork is leads to way slower dev cycles... 
(10:42:24 PM) glnsize: infighting and such
(10:42:44 PM) EBGreen: and monkys might fly out my butt
(10:42:47 PM) glnsize: lol
(10:42:49 PM) WinstonWolf: fork still beats the hell out of the package dying
(10:43:37 PM) EBGreen: yup...totally depends on what Oracle does and how the community responds
(10:43:41 PM) glnsize: ohhhh dont worry they screw it up
(10:44:06 PM) MoreAllLess: circles . . .
(10:45:34 PM) WinstonWolf: man I haven;t used kixstart in SUCH a long time
(10:46:09 PM) EBGreen: I still run across it occasionally when I convert business units to our corporate login
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(10:49:21 PM) EBGreen: nice
(10:49:47 PM) EBGreen: nevermind...no powershell polls
(10:50:21 PM) MoreAllLess: PowerShell and Fries anyone?
(10:50:29 PM) EBGreen: $SideDishList | Get-Random
(10:50:29 PM) glnsize: get your pizza in one line or 30% off
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(10:51:20 PM) StevenMurawski: )
(10:52:32 PM) EBGreen: be sure to do that test at your most <censored> co-worker's cube
(10:53:41 PM) EBGreen: Great show guys
(10:53:48 PM) MoreAllLess: No, thank you for another episode.
(10:53:59 PM) glnsize: good stuff as always
(10:54:03 PM) glnsize: nnn all
(10:54:06 PM) EBGreen: exit
(10:54:11 PM) StevenMurawski: Thanks guys!
(10:54:17 PM) StevenMurawski: later glenn
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(10:54:21 PM) StevenMurawski: thanks EB
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(10:55:36 PM) StevenMurawski: We really do appreciate the participation in the chat
(10:55:46 PM) StevenMurawski: It makes for a totally different experience recording the show.
(10:55:56 PM) MoreAllLess: Doesn't it through you off?
(10:56:06 PM) MoreAllLess: I am sure you have a lot going on at the same time.
(10:56:09 PM) StevenMurawski: A little bit
(10:56:32 PM) StevenMurawski: It helps that there are two or three of us to talk/monitor
(10:57:15 PM) MoreAllLess: Interesting.
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(10:57:49 PM) MoreAllLess: Yeah, I see where sometimes answers come through.
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(10:58:21 PM) MoreAllLess: I would say put me on, but then you'll end up staying late.  And I know it's almost midnight for you.
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(10:58:40 PM) MoreAllLess: Ok
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(11:19:34 PM) reelmccoy: In wonderful downtown LA... 
(11:20:00 PM) reelmccoy: Metro link away
(11:20:14 PM) reelmccoy: I wouldn't want to drive it!  :)  Van Nuys, CA
(11:20:43 PM) reelmccoy: If I can play hookie from work I'd like to
(11:21:12 PM) reelmccoy: Cool.  Thanks, Steve.  I'll look into that
(11:21:30 PM) StevenMurawski: NIght all!
(11:21:33 PM) reelmccoy: Goodnight ya'll.
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(11:22:03 PM) MindOfRoot-1: G'Night all. Thank you.
(11:22:14 PM) MoreAllLess: Just you and me, but GN
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(11:22:29 PM) MindOfRoot-1: Thanks. Good night.